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#deltachat PSAs regarding the last 24 hours:
1) If you messaged someone about 20-30 hours ago, and did not get an expected response/receipt better "resend" (long-tap or right-click the message to resend). Unfortunately, not all queued messages at the crashing nine.testrun.org server made it to the new one.
2) 2.33+ app releases are rolling out, supporting using "multiple relays" so that failing relays (like happened above) will not cause lost messages anymore. See https://support.delta.chat/t/how-to-migrate-your-profile-to-another-relay-version-2-33/
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jack-sparrow-sinking-ship meme with three text parts:
the sinking boat: "nine's discs failing"
Sparrow stepping on to the harbor: "Nine's admins"
The safe harbor: "New Nine server / 2.33 Multi-relay releases rolling"
@madamada the internal dependency #yggmail has some bugs that cause message drop/lost or delivery delays, but I am hyped with #tyr and hope the developer keeps improving it
this concept could even be expanded, making such an app an "universal bridge" providing that fake email server to #DeltaChat while then internally it is connecting to Telegram, WhatsApp, XMPP, etc. basically allowing you to use that networks with Delta Chat
RE: https://chaos.social/@thefinalstrawradio/115679804496870004
Another nice surprise! A careful discussion and appreciation of our almost 8-year long running efforts, and its #deltachat and #chatmail artifacts. The "Signal contingency plan" comes complete with podcast, website and zine!
A few things #deltachat apps are doing positively different from #Signal apps
- easiest onboarding ever; not depending on phone numbers or other private data
- support for multiple chat profiles/identities
- decentralized servers, not depending on US-based GAFAM etc.
- migration from one app/platform to any other
- easy multi-device support for any chat profile
- developers have chances to get their PRs merged :)
- mini-apps support via https://webxdc.org
anything missing?
this is so cool! I ported to #webxdc TIC-80 #fantasy #computer for making, playing and sharing tiny #games
you can import/export files with add/get commands!
with this you can create #retro games in #lua, #fennel, #python, #ruby, #javascript etc and play/share them with friends as in-chat apps in #DeltaChat / #ArcaneChat
I would like to expose the webxdc API to TIC-80 games so they can do networking/multiplayer and send in-chat messages
#fantasyconsole #console #retrogaming #tic80 #pico8
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screenshot of delta chat with TIC-80 open as a webxdc
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screenshot of TIC-80 as webxdc app inside delta chat, in the image you can see a TIC-80 game open and some TIC-80 tools
created an small #webxdc app for #DeltaChat / #ArcaneChat as a joke to quickly send a "Yo!" or "Bro!" notification to your chat pals!
this was inspired by an episode of #SilliconValley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley_(TV_series)
and actually there was a real app with this feature in #AppleStore that received 1M dollars in investment!
🤯🤯🤯
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo_(app)
unlike that app that got hacked and user data exposed, this app can't be hacked since it works encrypted between peers without any 3rd party service
Three converts. I can now safely uninstall delta and shutdown my relay.
Hello, much smaller attack surface 🥳
@rl_dane I am happy with #DeltaChat
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LOOK EVERYBODY,
It's a #sassy #hellthread that I took NO PART IN!
IT HAPPENS!!! SOMETIMES!?!?
https://mastodon.social/@murena/115656237852149287
P.S., slightly tempted to jump in, but now I can't because I wrote this. lol
#deltachat #xmpp #murena #debian #freebsd #SassyGrumpyPeople #NotMyFault
#Telegram has a nice and fast UI, granted.
But the 1 billion people using TG are at risk because of its big central database that any state security service craves for. Moreover, several anonymization proxy-bot offerings were hacked in 2024, identifying millions of users and content.
#deltachat builds anonymization directly into the app and has pervasive end-to-end encryption. #chatmail relay operators can sleep well, knowing they have nothing. Ergo, E2EE is good for any operators sleep! :)
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Chatmail logo from https://chatmail.at
it's an @ character but with a speech chat deformation in the left button.
from a random community chat: "#Telegram secret chats exist so you can share your #deltachat QR/link to get off Telegram 😇"
In related news, Arte published a well-done documentary film about "Telegram, the dark empire of Pawel Durov" up (german audio only) https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/122721-000-A/telegram-das-dunkle-imperium-von-pawel-durow/ -- it's a dive into various TG happenings during the last decades, biographical origins of telegram development, the durov brothers etc..
@tomgag #DeltaChat is the solution to all your problems, I have been admin of a #chatmail server for a while now, hosting +7k users in a cheap vps with 4gb of ram, only around 10GB of disk used, to be honest I sometimes even forget I have the server, it just works, requires zero maintainance, storage is auto-cleaned after 20days, profiles are auto-deleted after 90days after user stops using the account, profile creation is automatic, without spam problem because spammers can't write to people
@phanthomas if you use #DeltaChat or #ArcaneChat, I recommend you to use them with #chatmail accounts, which provide faster speed and prevent spammers/scammers from sending emails to your kids and other family members, only other family members will be able to get in contact with them via QR scan or invite link
YEAH! today, high noon in Berlin, Jonathan will present the upcoming #e2e #deltachat channels! well done! 🤘🎸
#prototypefund
@mavnn I think you're right but you know what could be even better, a combo of your solution + something to associate links/QR with named tags
e.g: if I call this QR "Jose Perez" and share it with Jose Perez, then the app shoudl tell me the person who just opened a converation with me through that exact QR (or link) is using the QR with the tag "Jose Perez".
If I don't understand incorrectly you can have multiple different QRs to initiate chats. I don't know how though. But those QRs having a name tag could be interesting.
Am I making sense?
@adbenitez is this even feasible?
Another day another friend I convert to Delta and new UX issue discovered:
> people need to be reminded to put pics so you know which José you're talking with.
EDIT: At the same time if you share your QR or link in WhatsApp to just your contacts. In a status saying you're leaving WhatsApp.
@fluidlogic @lunte161 @delta for information about #deltachat funding and organisation, also https://delta.chat/en/help#how-are-delta-chat-developments-funded gives some insights
Trying to get to the core of what's change on their Dovecot version. 🤔
I'm not keen on pre-built packages.
@xerz give a try to #DeltaChat it is the closest it exists today to a #decentralized #signal without phone numbers and with working nice multi-account and multi-device (without dependency on a main device!) and it even had polls before signal, and other in-chat mini-apps, #collaborative editors, #shopping lists, #games etc
We hereby challenge _all_ other messaging apps, FOSS or not, to provide a more convenient private onboarding experience than #deltachat
1. Install app
2. "Create new profile"
3. Enter nick name, tap "Agree and continue"
4. Tap "+" and "new contact" and provide/scan qr code/link
Voila! A secure private chat, familiar to those coming from Whatsapp or Telegram (without "AI", with #a11y).
Note: chat identities are private and can not be queried or discovered. Servers keep no track or metadata
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Start screen of https;//get.delta.chat apps which shows
Delta chat logo (Greek letter delta)
Secure decentralized chat
"Create new profile" button highlighted
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Create profile screen
With a field to enter a name ... "Fediverse chicken" was typed
A link to the privacy policy of nine.testrun.org, the default onboarding chatmail relay
A highlighted button "agree and continue"
A button "use other server"
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Screenshot of newly created profile
Title bar "fediverse chicken"
Two chats in the chat list:
"Device messages" with instructions how to setup contact with another chat profile
"Saved messages" where you can "save" messages from other chats to memorize them
We'd like to remind everyone that a self-hosted #chatmail relay is best shared in some wider than family circles. In crisis situations everbody does better when helping others.
A typical 1gb RAM chatmail relay VPS for 5-10 eur per month supports 50k+ daily users.
chatmail VPSes are stateless. You can wipe all disk state, reinstall and chatting will resume. Conversely, #deltachat does not keep or depend on any server state .Operators under pressure do not need to feel bad to hand over data.
La idea de pasarse a XMPP ya como que me remata, porque todo el trabajo de pasar a tu entorno recae en el que lidera la propuesta y para eso hay que tener entusiasmo y fuerza.
Tuve una época en la que estuve usando #deltachat con el correo electrónico y si hay que hacer esfuerzos en promocionar sistemas (en mi opinión) es en el correo electrónico. Mecanismo que empezamos a perder porque todo el mundo tiene uno, todo el mundo lo necesita, pero nadie quiere pelear por el suyo. Igual que con el fediverso.
1 cent per five years .... is the current marginal hosting cost for a #chatmail address, with which #deltachat apps facilitate world-wide private messaging including interactive #webxdc apps that run end-to-end encrypted in any chat group.
<1 Million EUR per year is the estimated marginal hosting costs for 350 Million EU citizens. Such scaling requires, however, research and development, including careful UX and #cryptography work. Related writing from @gordon
https://newsletter.squishy.computer/p/cryptography-scales-trust
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screenshot of key excerpt from the referenced post:
"When the network is built on cryptographic protocols, we don’t have to trust anything in-between. We don’t have to trust the computers, the wires, the institutions, beliefs, or kinship of the network participants. We can trust the math. All we have to do is verify the message with cryptography.
This is a powerful primitive for scaling trust, because it means everyone on the network can cooperate together, even if they don’t trust each-other. The costs to producing high-trust results are greatly reduced, and we can spend our coordination efforts on building larger, more fine-grained, more complex networks of cooperation."
Public service announcement:
1. If you want to link your #Fediverse profile to a chat account please consider just saying "DM me for #deltachat invite link" and NOT PUBLISH it to "all".
2. If you do publish invite links to groups and so on, please consider doing it with a dedicated delta chat profile that is not your private profile. Multi-Profile for the win.
3. We want to evolve the #securejoin invite link UX to better prevent unsafe practises. Involves tons of considerations. 💜
With our #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc efforts we put all intelligence on the end devices, and architecutally separate it from a transport layer that routes safely and fast but knows nothing.
There are a dozen or more #chatmail servers across many jurisdictions, all safely interopable with each other and classic servers.
Turned out we can dumb down email servers by relying on cryptography instead of IP reputation and ai/spam filtering. And have 200ms delivery times. We are not done :)
Did you know that #deltachat does not need and does not use key servers? Most other messengers (wa/signal/matrix/threema/...) actually operate or incorporate a cryptographic key server, managing the cryptographic identities of all users. Delta Chat uses decentralized protocols for key management avoiding a central storage of identities. The SecureJoin protocol is the key (sic!) innovation and was independently analyzed by ETH Zürich researchers earlier this year .... https://delta.chat/en/2024-03-25-crypto-analysis-securejoin
How many people do you know that have lost their messaging history on Whatsapp or Signal, photos etc during mobile phone transitions or breakage or through other shenenigans?
With #deltachat you can:
- export "everything" to a file and import it on any of the many different devices
- or just setup a second device through a QR code scan -- which was happily discovered here after an accidental factory reset https://libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-2066-0695-ca24-081964494389